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HipsterTech's avatar

That's a really interesting topic, Alessandra, thank you for bringing it up.

I think there are many opinions here and many, very different experiences. I have definitely seen a lot of crappy products that are being testing by decimated testing teams. And I've seen high quality software that was never touched by a professional.

My personal background is that I started my career (as a developer) surrounded by tested. We had major quality issues. The testers were a mixture of very skilled engineers and also some that could just click around and write tickets. There, I think the majority of bug was actually known by the test team, but it was a managerial decision to sleep them under the rug or downplay them. After that, for many, many years, I was involved in mostly startups where we couldn't afford to have dedicated tested. And the quality was always quite good.

I think, in the majority of cases, there's a causality vs. correlation issue. Teams that have testers and also underperform intersect quite a lot, but that doesn't mean that the testers caused it.

Often times, the decisive factor is not testing vs. not testing. It's social dynamic. People either care and are careful, or quite the opposite. You could hire testers if they don't, but people will still not care.

With the rise of concept like the DevOps methodology, more emphasis is put on engineering teams running their code on production. The same could be applied to testing. Ensuring quality IS part of development. A testing team can improve quality or make testing more structured. But it does NOT mean you are no longer responsible for the quality of what gets released.

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Debasish Mitra's avatar

Also where regulatory and compliance burden is huge like telecom and banking. In case of without domain and specifications knowledge difficult for any developer to test the application. Even integation challenge also huge in telecom. Multiple products from different companies integrated and tested.

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